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6 July 2018
Crew 18, Pilot David John Robertson – 462 Squadron RAAF

 

Crew 18 of 462 Squadron, Driffield - Doug Wilson (Wireless Op), Fred Randle (Rear Gunner), George ‘Formby’ Goldstein (M/U Gunner), Ralph Daughters (Flt Eng), Phil Chant (Bomb Aimer), Dave Robertson (Pilot), Percy Dermond (Nav).
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Above: The crew at 462 Squadron, Driffield, probably soon after they were posting there on 23 August 1944. The location appears to be near the Respirator Workshop, but not outside the door as for many other crew photos. They relocated with 462 Squadron to Foulsham on 29 December 1944.

Back, left to right: Doug Wilson (Wireless Op), Fred Randle (Rear Gunner), George ‘Formby’ Goldstein (M/U Gunner), Ralph Daughters (Flt Eng).
Front, left to right: Phil Chant (Bomb Aimer), Dave Robertson (Pilot), Percy Dermond (Nav).

 

Crew 18, 462 Squadron, Driffield, Yorkshire, and Foulsham, Norfolk

Pilot: David John ROBERTSON 419444 RAAF
Bomb Aimer: Phillip George CHANT 427636 RAAF
Navigator: Percival Albert Clifton DERMOND 432132 RAAF
Wireless Operator: Edward Douglas WILSON 419104 RAAF
Mid-Upper Gunner: George Leon GOLDSTEIN 433588 RAAF
Rear Gunner: Frederick Joseph RANDLE 24779 RAAF
Flight Engineer: Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS 1895166 RAF

Special Duties: WINDOW Dispensers (Foulsham)
Special Duties: RCM(Radio Counter Measures) Foulsham
Links to Additional Crew Information;
Memoir by Ralph Daughters (pdf file);
Summary of Crew Ops;
Loss of aircraft Halifax LL600 Z5-C

Reference sources – Australian WW2 Nominal Roll; The National Archives of Australia (A9300 and A9301 Service Files, 462 Squadron Operational Record Book); the family of F/Eng Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, and his personal Memoir.

 

 

Robertson Crew at 1652 HCU, Marston Moor, Phil Chant (Bomb Aimer), Dave Robertson (Pilot), Percy Dermond (Nav), Ralph Daughters (Flt Eng), George ‘Formby’ Goldstein (M/U Gunner), Fred Randle (Rear Gunner), Doug Wilson (Wireless Op) - all later at 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

The Crew at 1652 Heavy Conversion Unit, Marston Moor, July 1944.

Back L-R: Phil Chant (Bomb Aimer), Dave Robertson (Pilot), Percy Dermond (Nav), Ralph Daughters (Flt Eng).
Front L-R: George ‘Formby’ Goldstein (M/U Gunner), Fred Randle (Rear Gunner), Doug Wilson (Wireless Op).
On 21 June 1944, the original 6 members of the Crew were posted from 27 OTU to Acaster Malbis, where the Flight Engineer joined the crew. They were then posted on to 1652 HCU Marston Moor.

 

Pilot Dave Robertson and Wireless Operator Doug Wilson, of 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Pilot Dave Robertson, (left); Wireless Op Doug Wilson, (right).

Robertson was appointed as Acting Flight Lieutenant on 01 January 1945. Wilson was promoted to Warrant Officer on 19 February 1945. Both were posted to 11 PDRC on 04 June 1945 for repatriation to Australia, and both disembarked in Sydney ex-UK on 28 July 1945.
Date unknown, but due to their rank, it was after 19 February 1945.
Wilson appears to be wearing a Medal Ribbon Bar. The photo may have been taken after their return to an Australia winter, as the Pilot is wearing his RAAF greatcoat. (and in front of a palm tree?)

 

Former Navigator Percy Dermond, and former Flight Engineer Ralph Daughters at Irchester, Northamptonshire. (ex 462 Squadron)
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Left, former Navigator Percy Dermond, with former Flight Engineer Ralph Daughters, in the Daughters' family garden, Irchester, Northamptonshire. Date not known.

 

Former Flight Engineer Ralph Daughters, with his former "Skipper" Dave Robertson and Dave's wife Christine at Irchester, Northamptonshire. (ex 462 Squadron)
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Left, former Flight Engineer Ralph Daughters, with his former "Skipper" Dave Robertson and Dave's wife Christine, in the Daughters' family garden, Irchester, Northamptonshire. Date not known.

 

Former F/Eng Ralph Daughters and son Ken at Yorkshire Air Museum, Elvington, 2005. (462 Squadron)
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Ralph Daughters explaining to his son Ken, the finer points of Halifax LV907, NP-F "Friday the 13th" at the Yorkshire Air Museum, Elvington in 2005.

 

 

Former F/Eng Ralph Daughters and family at Yorkshire Air Museum, Elvington, 2005 (462 Squadron).
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Yorkshire Air Museum, Elvington 2005
From left to right: Ralph's wife, Ralph's son-in-law, former Flight Engineer Ralph Daughters, museum guide, Ralph's daughter, and Ralph's son (partially obscured), in front of Halifax LV907, NP-F with their "tour guide". However, on learning that Ralph was wartime crew, the guide respectfully stood back, while Ralph gave his family a lesson in all things Halifax.

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David John ROBERTSON 419444 RAAF, later Pilot in 462 Squadron.
Photo from the National Archives of Australia: A9300, 419444.

Above: David John ROBERTSON, 419444 RAAF, at enlistment,
1 Recruiting Centre, Melbourne, Victoria, 12 August 1942.

 

Pilot

Name: David John ROBERTSON (Dave)
Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Service Number: 419444
Date of Birth: 04 January 1924
Place of Birth: Toorak, Victoria
Date of Enlistment: 12 August 1942
Place of Enlistment: Melbourne, Vic
Next of Kin: John ROBERTSON
Date of Discharge: 21 September 1945
Rank at Discharge: Flying Officer
Posting at Discharge: 462 Squadron
Honours and Gallantry: Nil
Prisoner of War: No
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Phillip George CHANT 427636 RAAF, later Bomb Aimer in 462 Squadron.
Photo from the National Archives of Australia: A9300, 427636.

Above: Phillip George CHANT, 427636 RAAF, at enlistment,
4 Recruiting Centre, Perth, Western Australia, 16 August 1942.

 

Bomb Aimer

Name: Phillip George CHANT (Phil)
Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Service Number: 427636
Date of Birth: 19 January 1912
Place of Birth: Northam, Western Australia
Date of Enlistment: 16 August 1942
Place of Enlistment: Perth, WA
Next of Kin: Mary CHANT
Date of Discharge: 10 October 1945
Rank at Discharge: Flying Officer
Posting at Discharge: 5 Embarkation Depot (sic, 5 PD?)
Honours and Gallantry: Nil
Prisoner of War: No
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Navigator

Name: Percival Albert Clifton DERMOND (Percy)
Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Service Number: 432132
Date of Birth: 31 December 1918
Place of Birth: Woollahra, New South Wales
Date of Enlistment: 05 December 1942
Place of Enlistment: Sydney, NSW
Next of Kin: Beryl DERMOND
Date of Discharge: 17 October 1945
Rank at Discharge: Flying Officer
Posting at Discharge: 462 Squadron
Honours and Gallantry: Nil
Prisoner of War: No
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Wireless Operator

Name: Edward Douglas WILSON (Doug)
Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Service Number: 419104
Date of Birth: 18 June 1914
Place of Birth: Darwin, Northern Territory
Date of Enlistment: 14 July 1942
Place of Enlistment: Melbourne, Vic
Next of Kin: Edward WILSON
Date of Discharge: 03 October 1945
Rank at Discharge: Warrant Officer
Posting at Discharge: 462 Squadron
Honours and Gallantry: Nil
Prisoner of War: No

 

Edward Douglas WILSON 419104 RAAF, later Wireless Operator in 462 Squadron.Edward Douglas WILSON 419104 RAAF, at 1 ITS Somers, later Wireless Operator in 462 Squadron.Edward Douglas WILSON 419104 RAAF, at 2 WAGS Parkes, later Wireless Operator in 462 Squadron.
Photos from the National Archives of Australia: A9301, 419104.

Above left: Edward Douglas WILSON 419104 RAAF, at enlistment, 1 Recruiting Centre, Melbourne, Victoria, on 14 July 1942.
Above centre: Edward Douglas WILSON 419104 RAAF, at 1 Initial Training School, Somers, Vic., on or soon after posting on 08 November 1942.
Above right: Edward Douglas WILSON 419104 RAAF, at 2 WAGS, Parkes, NSW, on or soon after posting on 07 January 1943.
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Mid-Upper Gunner

Name: George Leon GOLDSTEIN ("Formby")
Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Service Number: 433588
Date of Birth: 03 February 1925
Place of Birth: Perth, WA
Date of Enlistment: 24 April 1943
Place of Enlistment: Sydney, NSW
Next of Kin: Bernard GOLDSTEIN
Date of Discharge: 18 September 1945
Rank at Discharge: Warrant Officer
Posting at Discharge: 462 Squadron
Honours and Gallantry: Nil
Prisoner of War: No
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Rear Gunner

Name: Frederick Joseph RANDLE (Fred)
Service: Royal Australian Air Force
Service Number: 24779
Date of Birth: 06 May 1917
Place of Birth: Inverell, NSW
Date of Enlistment: 07 February 1941
Place of Enlistment: Brisbane, Queensland
Next of Kin: Ellen RANDLE
Date of Discharge: 09 September 1945
Rank at Discharge: Flying Officer
Posting at Discharge: 462 Squadron
Honours and Gallantry: Nil
Prisoner of War: No
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Sergeant Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, later Flight Engineer in 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Formal photo of Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, showing his Engineer's Badge and Sergeant's stripes, and wearing "Best Blues". He completed and Passed his Flight Engineer's Training at St Athan on 17 May 1944, and was subsequently promoted to Sergeant. This photo may have been taken in late May or early June 1944 to record this event.

 

Flight Engineer

Name: Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS
Service: Royal Air Force
Service Number: 1895166
Date of Birth: 09 December 1924
Place of Birth: London, UK
Date of Enlistment: After January 1943 **
Place of Enlistment: Euston **
Next of Kin: ......
Date of Discharge: ......
Rank at Discharge: ......
Posting at Discharge: ......
Honours and Gallantry: ......
Prisoner of War: No

** From the website http://www.ab-ix.co.uk/rfc_raf.pdf which details RFC and RAF Service Numbers: No. 1890001 to No. 1899799 were allocated from January 1943 at Euston. This batch includes 1895166 for Ralph Daughters.

 

Sergeant Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, Flight Engineer in 462 Squadron, Driffield.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Sergeant Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, Flight Engineer in 462 Squadron. This photo appears to have been taken at the same time and place as the crew photo (Driffield, late August 1944) or was printed from the same negative.

 

Cover of Flying Log Book for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, Flight Engineer in 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Cover of Flying Log Book for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, Flight Engineer in 462 Squadron. The Ops details from this book were transcribed to his Memoir (included in a later section).
RAF Form 1767, Revised October 1943.

 

Page 1 of Flying Log Book for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, Flight Engineer in 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Page 1 of Flying Log Book for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, Flight Engineer.
This page records additional Flight Engineer training at 1658 Heavy Conversion Unit, Riccall, Yorkshire, completed on 21 July 1944.

 

Page 2-3 of Flying Log Book for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, Flight Engineer in 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Page 2-3 of Flying Log Book for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF.
This page records Flight Engineer Course No. 4 S. of T.T. RAF St Athan, Wales, training in Halifax III aircraft. He Passed the Course with an Examination result of 73.5%. The Course was signed-off by the Chief Instructor on 17 May 1944. (S. of T.T. = School of Technical Training)

 

Pilot's and Flight Engineer's Notes for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Pilot's and Flight Engineer's Notes for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF. The booklet covered Halifax III and Halifax VII aircraft, with four Hercules VI or XVI engines.

 

Notes for Pilots and Flight Engineers, Issue 2, for Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF, 462 Squadron.
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Notes for Pilots and Flight Engineers, Issue 2, October 1944, for F/Sgt Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, 1895166 RAF. The booklet covered Hercules XVI engines in Halifax III and Halifax VII aircraft.

 

Hand-painted Bomber Command & 462 Squadron plate, for the 65th Birthday of Ralph Kenneth Daughters (front).
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Hand-painted Bomber Command & 462 Squadron plate.

The 65th birthday plate for Ralph Daughters, 09 December 1989. To celebrate his birthday, his son Ken's wife Janice (who is an artist and at that time was painting on bone china and porcelain) produced this hand painted plate.

 

Hand-painted Bomber Command & 462 Squadron plate, for the 65th Birthday of Ralph Kenneth Daughters (back).
From the Archives of Ralph Kenneth Daughters

Hand-painted Bomber Command & 462 Squadron plate.

The back of the birthday plate, with inscription .....
RALPH DAUGHTERS
ON YOUR 65TH BIRTHDAY
~ with our love ~ Ken and Janice
9TH DECEMBER 1989
HAND PAINTED BY JANICE DAUGHTERS 1989
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Special Duties – WINDOW
From 01 January 1945, Foulsham
Total of 17 Ops with an 8th Crew Member to dispense WINDOW
1 Op with each named, except for A G TAYLOR on 12 Ops.

Arthur Howarth Sydney BROWN 437673 RAAF (from SWANN crew)
P/O MOORE RCAF (not fully identified in ORB)
Arthur Charles LOBB 410164 RAAF (from D M TAYLOR Crew)
Alexander Gordon TAYLOR 423491 RAAF (from HOURIGAN Crew)
F/Sgt Maurice Kevin MOORE 432059 RAAF (Posted to 462 Squadron specifically for SD-WINDOW)
Geoffrey HARRISON-BROADLEY 1458627 RAFVR (KIA on 24 February 1945 as SD-WINDOW with TOOTAL Crew).
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Special Duties – RCM (Radio Counter Measures)

No RCM Ops for this crew.

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Additional Crew Information – This has been sourced from the digitised RAAF Service Files for Pilot ROBERTSON, Bomb Aimer CHANT, and Wireless Operator WILSON, all available from the National Archives of Australia (NAA). The RAAF Service Files for the Navigator and the 2 Gunners were not available at the time of writing this Crew page for 06 July 2018. The information for Flight Engineer DAUGHTERS was supplied by his son Ken.
In February of 1945, the ages of members of this crew ranged from 33, to just 20. From oldest to youngest by birth month/year – B/A Chant 1/1912, W/Op Wilson 6/1914, R/AG Randle 5/1917, Nav Dermond 12/1918, Pilot Robertson 1/1924, F/Eng Daughters 12/1924, MU/AG Goldstein 2/1925. For Robertson, Daughters and Goldstein, the other four in the crew may have seemed quite old, with a 13-year age difference between Goldstein and Chant. Whereas the four older men put their faith in their much younger pilot, who had only celebrated his 21st birthday in January 1945, but who had already reached the rank of Acting Flight Lieutenant.

Summary of crew formation and postings

March 1944 – The initial Crew of six was formed at 27 Operational Training Unit (27 OTU) Lichfield, on or soon after arrival. Pilot Robertson posted to 27 OTU on 14 March 1944, Bomb Aimer Chant on 14 March, and W/Op Wilson on 14 March 1944. The Nav and 2 Gunners were probably posted TO 27 OTU at about that date.

21 June 1944 – Crew of 6 posted TO Acaster Malbis, Yorkshire, Pilot Robertson on 21 June, Chant on 21 June, and Wilson on 21 June. F/Eng Daughters joined the crew, as recorded in his Memoir.

14 July 1944 – Crew of 7 posted TO 1652 Heavy Conversion Unit (1652 HCU) Marston Moor, Yorkshire, as recorded in F/Engineer's Memoir.

23 August 1944 – The crew was posted TO 462 Squadron, Driffield, Yorkshire (4 Group) with the following rank – F/O Robertson, F/O Dermond, F/Sgts Chant, Wilson, Randle, Goldstein, and Sgt Daughters. The Crew's
Bombing Ops at Driffield are listed in a later section.

29 December 1944 – the Crew relocated with 462 Squadron to Foulsham, Norfolk (100 Group), in the Air Party, flying in Halifax NA147 Z5-G. The Crew's Special Duties Ops at Foulsham are listed in a later section.

May 1945 – F/Sgt Daughters was posted FROM 462 Squadron, Foulsham.
June 1945 – the RAAF crew members were posted FROM 462 Squadron, Foulsham, TO 11 PDRC Brighton for repatriation to Australia, with the following rank – Acting Fl/Lt Robertson on 04 June, P/O Chant on 04 June, W/O Wilson on 04 June; F/O Dermond, P/O Randle, and F/Sgt Goldstein were probably posted from 462 Squadron on the same date, 04 June.

Crew members are included in group photos at Foulsham, some positively identified due to original labels. Others have been tentatively identified by comparison with crew photos. Please contact if you assist.

Pilot David John ROBERTSON – information sourced from his RAAF A9300 Service File, or as otherwise noted in text.
Robertson is included in the group photo of Pilots at Foulsham, March 1945, front row, far right.

23 January 1942 – Enrolled in RAAF Reserve, aged 18 years, home residence 8 Toorak Ave, Toorak; employed as Clerk at Broken Hill Pty Ltd, 422 Little Collins St, Melbourne; vision 6/6 with normal colour vision, Medical category A1B, A3B. (Other details as per his enlistment on 12 August 1942, below).

27 February 1942 to 12 August 1942 – Military Service with AMF, GHQ, Signals, Park Orchards, Ringwood, Melbourne, Vic; Service No. V280933, rank of Private, duties Signaller, discharged from Army to enlist in RAAF.

12 August 1942 – Enlisted in the RAAF at 1 Recruiting Centre (1 RC) , Melbourne, Victoria; for the duration of the War, and 12 months thereafter; allocated Service Number 419444; mustered as Air Crew V; classified as Aircraftman 2 (AC2);
aged 18 years and 7 months, date of birth 04 January 1924; height 5 ft 8¾inches (174.6cm), weight 140lb (10 stone or 63.5kg), brown eyes; previous occupation Clerk, no civil convictions, single, Presbyterian, residence at Toorak, next of kin was his father, John Reginald ROBERTSON of Toorak Ave, Toorak, later of 376 Collins St., Melbourne. Education – Intermediate Certificate, and Leaving Certificate.
12 August 1942 – Posted to 1 Initial Training School (1 ITS), Somers, Vic

09 October 1942 – Remustered to Air Crew V (Pilot) at 1 ITS

07 November 1942 – Remustered to Air Crew II (Pilot)
07 November 1942 – Promoted to Leading Aircraftman (LAC)
12 November 1942 – Posted to 11 Elementary Flying Training School (11 EFTS), Benalla, Vic

03 December 1942 – Awarded Punishment of "3 Days Confined to Barracks" at 11 EFTS, Benalla, at the rank of LAC, for the Offence: "Absent from a place of parade in that he failed to appear at 0510 hours waking parade on 3/12/42 and was not sighted until 0530 hours". (0530 had been over-written onto the original 0520). The punishment seems a little harsh for being 20 minutes late. However this episode apparently did not affect his later promotions, and he was subsequently granted a Commission from the rank of Flight Sergeant, and within 6 months had reached the rank of Acting Flight Lieutenant.

13 February 1943 – Posted to 7 Service Flying Training School (7 SFTS), Deniliquin, NSW
16 February 1943 – Commenced Course 31 (Pilot) at 7 SFTS; Passed the Course

03 June 1943 – Awarded Flying Badge at 7 SFTS
03 June 1943 – Remustered to Airman Pilot at 7 SFTS
03 June 1943 – Promoted to Sergeant
04 June 1943 – Posted to 1 Embarkation Depot (1 ED), Ascot Vale, Melbourne, Vic

20 June 1943 – Posted to 2 ED, Bradfield Park, Sydney, NSW
22 June 1943 – Embarked from Sydney for the UK

04 September 1943 – Disembarked in UK
04 September 1943 – Posted to 11 Personnel Despatch and Reception Centre (11 PDRC), Brighton, UK

19 October 1943 – Posted to 14 (Pilots) Advanced Flying Unit (14 (P) AFU), RAF Station, Banff, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
02 November 1943 – Attached to RAF Fraserburgh, in Aberdeenshire, Scotland (until 07 March 1944)

03 December 1943 – Promoted to Flight Sergeant
07 December 1943 – Attached to 1518 BAT Flight to 21 December 1943 (Beam Approach Training)

14 March 1944 – Posted to 27 OTU, Lichfield; crew of 6 formed here (this posting matches exactly with that of Bomb Aimer Chant, and W/Op Wilson)

03 June 1944 – Discharged from RAAF, on being granted a Commission after recommendation by 91 Group.
04 June 1944 – Promoted to the rank of Pilot Officer, General Duties Branch

21 June 1944 – Posted to Acaster Malbis, Yorkshire (41 Base), with crew of 6 (this posting matches exactly with that of Bomb Aimer Chant and W/Op Wilson), where F/Eng Daughters joined the crew (info from his Memoir)
23 June 1944 – Attached to Aircrew Training School

14 July 1944 – Posted to 1652 HCU, Marston Moor, Yorkshire with crew of 7 (date from F/Eng Daughters' Memoir)

23 August 1944 – Posted to 462 Squadron, Driffield, Yorkshire (4 Group) with crew of 7, for Operational Duties (this posting matches exactly with that of Bomb Aimer Chant and W/Op Wilson and F/Eng Daughters)
Crew's Ops listed in later section

01 September 1944 – Appointed as Acting Flying Officer

04 December 1944 – Promoted to Flying Officer

29 December 1944 – Relocated with 462 Squadron from 4 Group Driffield to 100 Group Foulsham, Norfolk
Crew's Ops listed in later section

01 January 1945 – Appointed as Acting Flight Lieutenant

04 June 1945 – Posted to 11 PDRC Brighton, for repatriation to Australia (this posting matches exactly with that of Bomb Aimer Chant, and W/Op Wilson)

11 June 1945 – Confidential Report (Officers), rank of Flying Officer, but Acting Flight Lieutenant – General conduct satisfactory, of Temperate Habit; The C.O. W/Cdr P. M. Paull stated that "First impressions of this Officer are misleading. He is a clever and efficient officer .............. His administrative knowledge is sound". Group Capt V. Willis stated "A quiet and shy officer. Has a likeable personality and is always extremely respectful."

28 July 1945 – Disembarked Sydney, ex-overseas, taken on strength at 2 Personnel Depot (2 PD)

05 September 1945 – Posted to 1 PD, ex overseas

21 September 1945 – Termination of Appointment, discharged from RAAF on demobilization; home address 8 Toorak Ave., Toorak, Melbourne, Vic.
Overseas/Operational Service from 22 June 1943 (embarkation from Sydney) to 28 July 1945 (disembarkation in Sydney on return). Service classed as Satisfactory.

There were "Certified No Further Entries" on his General Conduct Sheet, after his first and only offence in December 1942;
and "Certified No Entry" on his Service Conduct Sheet.

20 November 1945 – receipt signed by Robertson for Airman's Certificate of Service and Discharge, and Officer's Certificate of Service No. 5418 (dated 17 October 1945). Eligible for "Returned from Active Service Badge".

Training Details – Flying
11 EFTS – Australia – DH.82 – 60 hours 40m
7 SFTS – Australia – Wirraway – 104 hours
14 (P) AFU – UK – Oxford – 130 hours
27 OTU – UK – Wellington – 73 hours
1652 CU – UK – Halifax – 36 hours
Total Training Flying – 403 hours

Operational Flying Details
462 Squadron – Halifax – 176 hrs 20m – 34 Sorties (Ops)
Total Flying – 605 hours 50m according to Form P/P.150 for Pilots in his Service File. However the total of the hours as recorded is only 580 hours, a difference of 25 Hours 50m. By comparison with a similar form in the Service Files for Chant and Wilson, it appears that Robertson had not recorded his "non-operational" flying time at 462 Squadron on his form, but had included those hours in his total.
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Bomb Aimer Phillip George CHANT – information sourced from his RAAF A9300 Service File, or as otherwise noted in text.
Chant may be in the group photo of Bomb Aimers at Foulsham, March 1945, possibly front row, 2nd from right, but his identification needs confirmation. ( Contact )

13 January 1942 – Medical Examination for Enrolment in RAAF Reserve at 4 Recruiting Centre (4 RC) Perth, Western Australia; aged 30 years, Medical category A1B. (Other details as per his enlistment in the RAAF on 16 August 1942, below.)
04 February 1942 – Accepted into the RAAF Reserve, at 4 RC, Perth WA

16 August 1942 – Enlisted in the RAAF at 4 RC, Perth, WA; for the duration of the War, and 12 months thereafter; allocated Service Number 427636; mustered as Air Crew V; classified as Aircraftman 2 (AC2);
aged 30 years and 6 months, date of birth 19 January 1912, born in Northam, WA; height 5 ft 6½ inches (168.9 cm), weight 132lb (9 stone 6lb or 59.8kg), vision 6/6, fair complexion, brown hair and brown eyes; Medical category A1B, A3B; previous occupation Bank Clerk, no civil convictions, no previous military service; Education Junior Certificate; Church of England, married, next of kin was his wife Mary Reason CHANT of 5 Carbine Street, Belmont, WA (marriage 30 December 1939; also dependant son Peter)
16 August 1942 – Posted to 5 ITS, Clontarf, WA

06 October 1942 – Remustered to Air Crew V (O) at 5 ITS

07 November 1942 – Remustered to Air Crew II (O) at at 5 ITS
07 November 1942 – Promoted to Leading Aircraftman (LAC)

10 December 1942 – Posted to 2 Air Observers School (2 AOS), Mt Gambier, South Australia;
10 December 1942 – Commenced 32 (Observers) Course
26 February 1943 – Passed 32 (O) Course at 2 AOS

06 March 1943 – Posted to 2 Bombing and Gunnery School (2 BAGS), Port Pirie, SA
29 April 1943 – Awarded Air Navigation (B) Badge at 2 BAGS

03 May 1943 – Posted to 2 Air Navigation School (2 ANS), Nhill, Vic
03 May 1943 – Commenced No. 32 (N) Course in Astro-Navigation, until 27 May 1943, PASSED

27 May 1943 – Awarded Navigator Badge at 2 ANS
27 May 1943 – Remustered as Navigator (B) at 2 ANS
27 May 1943 – Promoted to Sergeant

07 June 1943 – Attached to 2 ED, Bradfield Park, until 17 June 1943

18 June 1943 – Posted to General Reconnaissance School (GRS), Cressy Airfield, Bairnsdale, Vic
18 June 1943 – Commenced No. 2 GR (N) Course, until 27 August 1943 (General Reconnaissance Navigation Course)

02 October 1943 – Posted to 73 Squadron, Nowra, NSW
18 October 1943 – Posted to 5 ED, Subiaco, WA
20 November 1943 – Posted to 1 ED, Melbourne Cricket Ground (sic),Vic
23 November 1943 – Posted to 2 ED, Bradfield Park, Sydney, NSW
26 November 1943 – Embarked from Sydney for the UK

27 November 1943 – Promoted to Flight Sergeant

10 January 1944 – Disembarked in UK
10 January 1944 – Posted to 11 PDRC, Brighton, UK

08 February 1944 – Posted to 1 (Observers) Advanced Flying Unit (1 (O) AFU), RAF Wigtown, Dumfries and Galloway

14 March 1944 – Posted to 27 OTU, Lichfield, crew of 6 formed here (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and W/Op Wilson)

21 June 1944 – Posted to Acaster Malbis, Yorkshire (41 Base), with crew of 6 (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and W/Op Wilson), where F/Eng Daughters joined the crew (info from his Memoir)
23 June 1944 – Attached to Aircrew Training School

14 July 1944 – Posted to 1652 HCU, Marston Moor, Yorkshire with crew of 7 (date from F/Eng Daughters' Memoir)

23 August 1944 – Posted to 462 Squadron, Driffield, Yorkshire (4 Group) with crew of 7, for Operational Duties (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and W/Op Wilson and F/Eng Daughters)
Crew's Ops listed in later section

27 November 1944 – Promoted to Warrant Officer

29 December 1944 – Relocated with 462 Squadron from 4 Group Driffield to 100 Group Foulsham, Norfolk
Crew's Ops listed in later section

11 February 1945 – Discharged as Airman from RAAF, on being granted a Commission
12 February 1945 – Promoted to the rank of Pilot Officer, General Duties Branch

04 June 1945 – Posted to 11 PDRC Brighton, for repatriation to Australia (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and W/Op Wilson)

20 June 1945 – Embarked from UK, destination Australia

24 July 1945 – Disembarked Perth, WA, ex-overseas
24 July 1945 – Posted to 5 PD, Subiaco, WA

12 August 1945 – Promoted to Flying Officer

08 October 1945 – Posted to 5 PD, for Discharge from RAAF
10 October 1945 – Termination of Appointment, discharged from RAAF on demobilization; home address 5 Carbine Street, Belmont, WA

His Service Conduct Sheet was "Certified No Entry". His General Conduct Sheet was "Certified No Entry" for all Postings.

21 January 1946 – receipt signed by Chant for Airman's Certificate of Service and Discharge, and Officer's Certificate of Service No. 7436 (dated 13 November 1945), address 5 Carbine Street, Belmont, WA . Eligible for "Returned from Active Service Badge".

Medals Listed – 1939-45 Star, France and Germany Star, Defence Medal, War Medal 1939/45, Australia Service Medal 1939-45, Returned from Active Service Badge.

Flying Details – hand-written Form P/P 151 for "Aircrew other than Pilots"
Training

2 AOS – Mt Gambier – Anson – 58 hours
2 BAGS – Pt Pirie – Fairy Battle – 31 hours
2 ANS – Nhill – Anson – 30 hours
2 GR(N) – Aus – Anson – 56 hours
1 (O) AFU – UK – Anson – 47 hours
27 OTU – UK – Wellington – 71 hours
1652 CU – UK – Halifax II – 36 hours
Total Training Flying – 329 hours

Non-Operational Flying
462 Squadron – Halifax III – 23 hours 30min

Operational Flying
462 Squadron – Driffield – Halifax III – 18 Sorties (Ops) – 91 hours
462 Squadron – Foulsham – Halifax – 15 Sorties – 82 hours
Total Operational Flying – 33 Sorties – 173 hours

Total Flying – 525 hours (excluding non-op minutes).

04 February 1975 – residence at 5 Carbine St., Belmont, WA, same as for the War years.
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Navigator Percival Albert Clifton DERMOND is included in the group photo of Navigators at Foulsham, February/March 1945, front row, 3rd from left.

Rear Gunner Frederick Joseph RANDLE may be in the group photo of Gunners of "A" Flight at Foulsham, March 1945, possibly back row, 1st on left, but his identification needs confirmation. ( Contact )

Mid-Upper Gunner George Leon GOLDSTEIN should therefore be in the same group photo, but he has not yet been identified.

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Wireless Operator Edward Douglas WILSON – information sourced from his RAAF A9301 Service File, or as otherwise noted in text.
Some details vary between documents, including his year of birth, and some event dates.
Wilson is included in the group photo of Wireless Operators at Foulsham, March 1945, front row, 3rd from right.

05 May 1942 – Application for Air Crew, at RAAF Recruiting Centre, Melbourne; home residence "Hillside", Wychitella, Vic; no previous Military Service or training; Education at Wychitella State School, Vic, and Boort Higher Education School, Vic, Merit Certificate; sport of cricket and football; experience with internal combustion engines of cars and tractors. (Other details as per his enlistment on 14 July 1942, below).

12 June 1942 – Medical examination for enlistment in the RAAF

14 July 1942 – Enlisted in the RAAF at 1 Recruiting Centre (1 RC) , Melbourne, Victoria; for the duration of the War, and 12 months thereafter; allocated Service Number 419104; mustered as Air Crew V; classified as Aircraftman 2 (AC2);
aged 28 years 10 months, date of birth 18 June 1914, born in Darwin, NT; height 5 ft 6 inches (167.6cm), weight 140lb (10 stone or 63.5kg), vision 6/6 with normal colour vision, fair hair and complexion, blue eyes; Medical category A1B, A3B; previous occupation Farm Labourer, no civil convictions, single, Presbyterian, residence at Wychitella, next of kin was his father, Edward WILSON of Wychitella, Vic
14 July 1942 – Posted to 1 Recruiting Depot (1 RD) Shepparton, Vic
31 July 1942 – Posted to 1 Aircraft Depot (1 AD), Laverton, Vic
08 November 1942 – Posted to 1 ITS, Somers
10 November 1942 – Signature of "Will" (Form P/P. 77A) at 1 ITS, wherein AC2 Wilson, being over the age of 21, appointed his father Edward WILSON of Wychitella, Vic, as the sole executor of his Will, and bequeathed all of his property to his father.

29 December 1942 – Remustered to Air Crew V (G) at 1 ITS
02 January 1943 – Promoted to Leading Aircraftman (LAC)
07 January 1943 – Posted to 2 Wireless and Gunnery School (2 WAGS), Parkes, NSW
04 February 1943 – Commenced Course 35 (G) at 2 WAGS, until 21 July 1943, PASSED

21 July 1943 – Awarded Wireless Badge at 2 WAGS
21 July 1943 – Remustered to Air Crew II (G) at 2 WAGS

26 July 1943 – Posted to 2 Bombing and Gunnery School (2 BAGS), Port Pirie, South Australia
26 July 1943 – Commenced No. 35 Air Gunner's Course at 2 BAGS, until 19 August 1943, PASSED

19 August 1943 – Awarded Air Gunner's Badge at 2 BAGS
19 August 1943 – Remustered as WOAG (Wireless Operator Air Gunner) at 2 BAGS
19 August 1943 – Promoted to Sergeant
20 August 1943 – Posted to 1 ED, Ascot Vale, Melbourne, Vic

08 September 1943 – Posted to 2 ED, Bradfield Park, Sydney, NSW
10 September 1943 – Embarked from Brisbane for the UK

19 October 1943 – Disembarked in UK
20 October 1943 – Posted to 11 PDRC, Brighton, UK

05 December 1943 – Attached to Aircrew NCO School, until 11 January 1944
15 December 1943 – Commenced Air Crew Non Commissioned Officer Course at RAF Whitley Bay, Northumberland, UK, until 12 January 1944, PASSED, result 66%

25 January 1944 – Posted to 1 (Observers) Advanced Flying Unit (1 (O) AFU), RAF Wigtown, Dumfries and Galloway.

19 February 1944 – Promoted to Flight Sergeant

11 March 1944 – Remustered as Wireless Operator (Air)

14 March 1944 – Posted to 27 OTU, Lichfield, crew of 6 formed here (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and Bomb Aimer Chant)
06 April 1944 to 09 April 1944 – In Station Sick Quarters at 27 OTU (no mention of injury, so possibly a winter related illness)

21 June 1944 – Posted to Acaster Malbis, Yorkshire (41 Base), with crew of 6 (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and Bomb Aimer Chant), where F/Eng Daughters joined the crew (info from his Memoir)
23 June 1944 – Attached to Aircrew Training School

14 July 1944 – Posted to 1652 HCU, Marston Moor, Yorkshire with crew of 7 (date from F/Eng Daughters' Memoir)

23 August 1944 – Posted to 462 Squadron, Driffield, Yorkshire (4 Group) with crew of 7, for Operational Duties (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and Bomb Aimer Chant and F/Eng Daughters)
Crew's Ops listed in later section

29 December 1944 – Relocated with 462 Squadron from 4 Group Driffield to 100 Group Foulsham, Norfolk
Crew's Ops listed in later section

19 February 1945 – Promoted to Warrant Officer

04 June 1945 – Posted to 11 PDRC Brighton, for repatriation to Australia (this posting matches exactly with that of Pilot Robertson and Bomb Aimer Chant)

28 July 1945 – Disembarked Sydney, ex-overseas
29 July 1945 – Posted to 1 PD

06 September 1945 – Posted to 1 PD, Demobilization Wing

03 October 1945 – Discharged from RAAF on demobilization
Overseas/Operational Service from 10 September 1943 (embarkation from Brisbane) to disembarked in Sydney on 28 July 1945. Service classed as Satisfactory.

His Service Conduct Sheet was "Certified No Entry". There was no General Conduct Sheet in his Service File.

27 December 1945 – receipt signed by Wilson for Airman's Certificate of Service and Discharge (dated 01? November 1945, and posted to an address in Hawthorn, Vic). Eligible for "Returned from Active Service Badge".

Medals Listed – 1939-45 Star, France and Germany Star, Defence Medal, War Medal 1939/45, Australia Service Medal 1939-45, Returned from Active Service Badge.

Flying Details – according to Form P/P.151 for "Aircrew other than Pilots", in his Service File; one type-written form with incorrect birth-date and incorrect enlistment date and faulty maths; and a second hand-written form with less detail and with variations in italics as marked below in brackets, but with maths correct. The reason for the differences is not known.

Training Details – Flying
2 WAGS – Australia – Wackett – 20 hours 05min (20 hours)
2 BAGS – Australia – Fairey Battle – 12 hours 10min (10 hours)
1 (O) AFU – UK – Anson – 45 hours 45min (48 hours)
27 OTU – UK – Wellington – 74 hours 50min (74 hours)
1652 CU – UK – Halifax II – 36 hours 30min (30 hours)
Total Training Flying – 189 hours 20min (182 hours)

Non-Operational Flying
462 Squadron – Halifax – ?? hours, illegible (26 hours)

Operational Flying Details
462 Squadron – Driffield – Halifax III – 16 Sorties (Ops) – 60 hours 25min
462 Squadron – Foulsham – Halifax – 16 Sorties – 107 hours 25min
Total Operational Flying – 32 Sorties – 167 hours 50m (170 hours)

Total Flying – 341 hours 35m but with maths error in typed form; (378 hours, mathematically correct for the hand-written form).

18 April 1977 – Death of Edward Douglas Wilson, with his Widow living in the Cairns district of Queensland.
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Flight Engineer Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS

Information from Ralph's Memoir, page 9 (link to file in next section).
17 November 1943 – Commenced training as a Flight Engineer at RAF No. 4 School of Technical Training at St Athan, south Wales; Passed with 73.5% on 17 May 1944
19 May 1944 – Posted to 1658 Heavy Conversion Unit (1658 HCU), Riccall, Yorkshire for Flight Engineer familiarisation training, flying as 2nd Flight Engineer with experienced crews
Undated (~ June 1944?) – Posted to Acaster Malbis, Yorkshire, for amalgamation with an operational crew (Pilot Robertson)
14 July 1944 – Posted to 1652 HCU Marston Moor, Yorkshire, with the 7-man crew, Pilot Robertson
23 August 1944 – Posted to 462 Squadron, Driffield, with the Robertson Crew, for Operational flying

From 462 Squadron ORB
May 1945 – F/Sgt Daughters was posted FROM 462 Squadron, Foulsham

Information from his son Ken.
Ralph was the last surviving member of his crew and passed away in October 2015 aged 90.
He is named in the November 1944 Fl/Eng photo at Driffield, middle row, 7th from left (i.e. 6th from right).  
Ralph frequently met up with his ‘Skip’ Dave Robertson and his Navigator Percy Dermond (see 2 photos in previous section).
In 2005, Ralph arranged for his wife, son Ken and his wife, and daughter Wendy and her husband, to visit the Yorkshire Air Museum, Elvington for a guided tour inside the restored Halifax. Needless to say the tour guide volunteered to adopt an observer's role when he learnt of Ralph’s knowledge of the plane, and listened with great interest to his recollections and the information he provided (see 2 photos in previous section).
A full transcript of the events surrounding the crash landing of LL600 Z5-C as told by Ralph Daughters, and which relates to the photo on the ‘Halifax III’ photo page, is included in his Memoir (link included below).

Ralph carried out 33 Ops – 31 with Pilot Robertson, 1 Op with Whatling, and 1 with Britt. An additional 2 Ops were early returns, so were not counted in the final tally.
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Memoir written by Ralph Kenneth DAUGHTERS, last amended November 1995, a 9 page document ....... link to pdf file .....

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Crew Ops at Driffield from 23 August 1944 to 29 December 1944; and at Foulsham from 01 January 1945 to 08 May 1945.

Following is a summary of this crew's Ops at Driffield with the usual crew of seven, and Ops at Foulsham with a crew of eight.
For detailed information, please refer to the Memoir by Ralph Daughters (link provided in the previous section).

The following table lists all of the Ops for Robertson and crew – with 2 Ops abandoned by Master Bomber; one a non-starter; 2 early returns due to hydraulic failure; and 3 landings away – one with an aircraft written-off.
Robertson's first Op was as 2nd Pilot with the Jackson crew. The Op numbers refer to Robertson's Ops, so differ slightly from those recorded in the Memoir by F/Eng Daughters.

Ops 1 to 19 were from Driffield for Bombing, and Ops 20 to 36 were from Foulsham, on Special Duties. Robertson's final total was 34 Ops, as those 2 Ops with early returns would not have been included in the Ops tally. He carried out 33 Ops with his usual crew, with a few substitutions.
W/Op Wilson was substituted by W/Op Hale on 2 consecutive Ops (04 and 06 November 1944).
F/Eng Daughters was substituted by Soames and Reynolds on consecutive Ops (18 November and 21 November 1944).
Wilson carried out one catch-up Op as SD/WINDOW Dispenser with McGindle's crew (02/04/1945).
Daughters had 2 catch-up Ops, one as SD WINDOW Dispenser with Whatling Crew (02/01/1945) and one as Flight Engineer with Britt crew (15/03/1945). In his Memoir, Daughters recorded himself again as SD/WINDOW for BRITT, however the ORB lists the SD/WINDOW crew member as McLean.
All other permanent members of Robertson's Crew carried out all of their Ops with Robertson, with no substitutions.

Serial Numbers are from the ORB and F/Engineer's Memoir.
Z5 Code from various Log books, including that of F/Eng Daughters as recorded in his Memoir. (There are discrepancies within the ORB, and between the ORB and various authors.)
In the ORB, there were the usual variations in spelling of Surnames, initials, and Service Numbers for crew members.

Times up and down in black are day flights, and times in red are night flights.
Target "Le Havre (1 of 12)" means 12 aircraft were tasked from 462 Squadron to the target of Le Havre, with Robertson's crew being one of those 12 (and so on for the other dates, some ops had two Targets and show a higher aircraft total).
There is some variation in the spelling of Target names in the original ORB.

Code for Op Type – B Bombing; SD Special Duties; SP Spoof; W WINDOW; F Flares; TI Target Indicators; I Incendiaries.
The Special Duties 8th crew member for dispensing WINDOW is named in the comments column.
This crew did not carry out any Ops using Special Equipment for Radio Counter Measures (RCM).

 

Date Op No A/c
Serial
Code Z5- Up Down Target Op Type Comments
31/08/1944 1 MZ792 P 1300 1608 La Pourchinte (1 of 8) Bombing Robertson as 2nd Pilot for Jackson Crew;
Op abandoned by Master Bomber;
all bombs brought back by this crew.
09/09/1944 2 LW440 B 1445 1854 Le Havre (1 of 12) Bombing

Op abandoned by Master Bomber;
bombs jettisoned

10/09/1944

3 LW440 B 1445 1854 Le Havre (1 of 16) Bombing

 

12/09/1944 4 LL599 E 1113 1615 Gelsenkirchen (1 of 16) Bombing Bombs jettisoned at sea
13/09/1944 5 LL599 E 1607 2034 Gelsenkirchen (1 of 15) Bombing 4 bombs jettisoned at sea
23/09/1944 6 LL600 C 1858 2355 Neuss (1 of 14) Bombing Landed away, overshot and crashed at Sudbury;
Aircraft written off.
27/09/1944 7 MZ341 G 0915 1307 Calais (1 of 7) Bombing Z5-G prior to being re-branded as Z5-P
30/09/1944 8 MZ341 G 0956 1413 Bootrop
(sic, Bottrop, 1 of 14)
Bombing Z5-G prior to being re-branded as Z5-P
14/10/1944 9 NA622 T 0641 1132 Duisburg (1 of 14) Bombing  
15/10/1944 10 LL610 U 1721 2155 Wilhelmshaven (1 of 9) Bombing Listed as LL610 in ORB, but as MZ401 in F/Eng Log
23/10/1944 11 MZ467 C 1638 2210 Essen (1 of 16) Bombing  
04/11/1944 12 LV955 E 1748 2250 Bochum (1 of 13) Bombing Substitute W/Op Frank William HALE 1377927 RAFVR

06/11/1944

13 LV955 E 1148 1716 Gelsenkirchen (1 of 14) Bombing Substitute W/Op Frank William HALE 1377927 RAFVR
16/11/1944 14 LV955 E 1305 1733 Jülich (1 of 16) Bombing  
18/11/1944 15 MZ370 L 1244 1737 Munster (1 of 15) Bombing Substitute F/Eng Stuart Leslie SOAMES
(from McGindle crew);
Op not recorded in F/Engineer's Memoir
21/11/1944 16 NA147 G 1716 2349 Sterkrade (1 of 15) Bombing Substitute F/Eng G J REYNOLDS 1169328 RAF
(from Triggs Crew)
29/11/1944   NA147 G     Essen (1 of 19) Bombing Non-starter (17 of 19 airborne)

30/11/1944

17 NA147 G 1635 2221 Duisburg (1 of 16) Bombing  
02/12/1944 18 NA147 G 1741 0110 Hagen (1 of 15) Bombing  
05/12/1944

19

NA147 G 1807 0038 Soest (1 of 14) Bombing  
29/12/1944   NA147 G 0700   Driffield to Foulsham Relocate Air party, transferring with 462 Squadron from 4 Group Driffield, to 100 Group Foulsham (Ref: NAA File A2217)
Robertson and his usual permanent crew.
02/01/1945   MZ429 F 1553 2108 Nuremburg
(sic, Nuremberg, 1 of 8)
SD SP W DAUGHTERS on catch-up Op with Whatling crew;
as their 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW
05/01/1945 20 NA147 G 1635 2015 Heligoland (1 of 7, with another 5 to 2nd target) SD SP W Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A H S BROWN 437673 RAAF
07/01/1945 21 MZ467 C 1530 1637 Ruhr (1 of 5) SD SP W Not listed in F/Eng Memoir; early return with hydraulics trouble;
Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
MOORE (RCAF, but not identified by initials or Sce No.)
14/01/1945 22 NA147 G 1627

2237

Mannheim (1 of 13) SD SP W B Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A C LOBB 410164 RAAF
17/01/1945 23 MZ467 C 1635 2124 Bochum (1 of 8) SD SP W B Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
01/02/1945 24 NA147 G 1648 2300 Mannheim (1 of 13) SD SP W B Hydraulics failure; diverted to Little Snoring; landed away;
Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
M K MOORE 432059 RAAF
03/02/1945 25 MZ370 L 1659 2131 Mainz (1 of 9) SD SP W B Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
07/02/1945 26 NA147 G 2148 0144 Bonn (1 of 11) SD SP W B I Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
G HARRISON-BROADLEY 1458627 RAFVR
09/02/1945 27 NA147 G 0351 0814 Ruhr (1 of 10) SD SP W Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
11/02/1945 28 NA147 G 0137 0150 Ruhr (1 of 8) SD SP W

Early return, Hydraulics U/S; in F/Eng memoir as 10/02/45; Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF

20/02/1945 29 NA147 G 2222 0444 Heilbronn (1 of 14) SD SP W B Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
21/02/1945 30 NA147 G 1740 2201 Ruhr (1 of 3, with another 9 to 2nd target) SD SP W F Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
28/02/1945 31 NA147 G 2009 0231 Freiberg (1 of 7) SD SP W In ORB as incorrect NR147;
in F/Eng memoir as near Switzerland;
Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
02/03/1945 32 MZ467 C 1912 2229 Emden (1 of 7) SD SP W B I Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
03/03/1945 33 MZ467 C 1936 2359 Dortmund Ems Canal (1 of 8) SD SP W TI Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
15/03/1945   NR239 D 1743 0122 Munster & Hagen (1 of 8) SD SP W I TI DAUGHTERS on catch-up Op with Britt Crew; Gunners engaged in combat with German JU-88 night-fighter
22/03/1945 34 MZ467 C 0130 0626 Bremen (1 of 5) SD SP W I TI in F/Eng Memoir as 23/03/45;
Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
02/04/1945   MZ429 F 2035 0200 Stade area (1 of 10) SD SP W B TI WILSON on catch-up Op with McGindle crew;
as their 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW
04/04/1945 35 PN432 E 1857 0300 Berlin (1 of 9, with another 2 to 2nd target) SD SP W F Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF
08/04/1945 36 PN432 E 1828 0257 Schönebeck (1 of 11, with another 1 to 2nd target) SD SP W F TI Diverted to Lindholme on return; landed away;
Additional 8th member of crew to dispense WINDOW,
A G TAYLOR 423491 RAAF

Of the Halifax aircraft listed above ........

Robertson Crew completed 12 Ops in NA147Z5-G,
as well as 1 x "early return", 1 x "non-starter",
and also the relocation from Driffield to Foulsham.

LL599 Z5-E later lost on Op with NELDER Crew;
LL610 Z5-U later lost on Op with JUBB Crew;
MZ467 Z5-C later lost on Op with LODDER Crew;
MZ370 Z5-L lost on Op with James Crew.

On the Halifax page, photos of the following aircraft flown by this crew may be seen –

LW440 Z5-B
LL599 Z5-E
LL600 Z5-C (also below, with description of Loss)
MZ341 Z5-G (later re-branded as Z5-P)
MZ370 Z5-L (in background only)
NA147 Z5-G
NR239 Z5-D

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Loss of Aircraft – Halifax LL600 Z5-C (photo also on Halifax page)

From the 462 Squadron Operational Record Book, September 1944, Form 541, page 59, and Form 540 page 10.
This was one of 14 aircraft from 462 Squadron detailed for a night Op to target Neuss (Ruhr valley). Take off for LL600 was at 1858 on the 23 September, and the primary target was bombed from 17,500 ft., at 2229. When landing at Sudbury at 2355, LL600 overshot and crashed, with the aircraft category A.C. Ten aircraft returned to Base, and four landed away (including LL600 at Sudbury, one at Manston, and two at Stradishall).

Halifax LL600 Z5-C, of 462 Squadron, which crash landed at Sudbury, 23 September 1944. (RAAFA Bull Creek)

Photo from the Aviation Heritage Museum of Western Australia, Catalog No. P025875, with the caption ....

"Halifax LL600/Z5-C, crash landing at Sudbury, 23 Sept., 1944."

The following has been transcribed from pages 2 and 3 of the Memoir by Flight Engineer Ralph Daughters, which also included notes from Pilot Dave Robertson. (Link to the complete 9-page pdf in previous section). Transcription in italics ..... quote ......

Op. No: 5. Date: 23/09/44. Target: Neuss (Ruhr).
Take off: 18.59 hours. Duration: 5 hours.
Aircraft: Halifax B.III, LL600 "C".
Details: Out of fuel, overshot on crash-landing at Sudbury. Resulting from the undercarriage being torn off aircraft LL600 Z5-C, damaged beyond repair, was Struck off Charge.

Dave Robertson and Ralph Daughters have vivid recollections of their fifth op.
For Dave the story begins shortly after take off:-

After take off and a normal climb to cruising altitude it was discovered on throttling back to cruising power that the pitch control of the propeller on the (I'm pretty sure) starboard inner would not bring the engine's speed below 2400 rpm. No matter what was tried with the Pitch Control Lever, the propeller remained jammed at or nearly Fully Fine.

Various combinations of trim and engine power were tried until the yaw was eliminated as much as possible and at the same time the required cruising speed was maintained. Three engines needed a little more power than usual, and the fourth, (in an analogy with the motor car, was running in "second gear" and) was using considerably more fuel than it normally would at cruising revs. (An alternative, not seriously considered, might have been to feather the starboard inner, but we would then not have been able to keep up with the bomber stream and in any case would probably have used more fuel overall). The target at Neuss was attacked without further problems.

On return over the English coast near the mouth of the Thames the fuel state dictated that we had to land at the first available open airfield. It was some time before an airfield's lights were sighted, but they could not be raised by radio. Valuable time was wasted as we circled the field for a growing number of minutes, trying to establish radio contact or attract the attention of the Tower by firing off the Colours of the Day with Very lights.

While we continued circling the runway lights were suddenly switched off! It transpired later that ATC had been warned that Enemy Intruders were in the area. Fortunately the perimeter track lights remained faintly visible showing where one runway end jutted out from the main part of the airfield revealing its approximate threshold and direction. With fuel gauges now reading in the unreliably low regions, it was decided to land while we still had the help of the perimeter track lights. Despite the light from a flare we had dropped earlier, it was not possible to see the runway surface and we touched down a prudent halfway along the runway but too fast, and over-ran the boundary fence at the far end, across a road, and, much damaged, came to rest in a ditch in the next field.

(Perhaps, Ralph, you remembered all this too, but didn't put it in because it's all too long and spoils a good tory, and you could be right. But I remember the agonising five hours with a hottish engine running at climbing revs, and our concern at the galloping consumption of fuel. I had quite forgotten the presence of the "hydraulic" fluid all over the main spar that you mention.) ................................................... Dave Robertson.

For Ralph the story begins at the end of the homeward leg:-
This was our fifth op and on the return we were low on fuel and the hydraulics were leaking fluid all over the top of the front main wing spar. I remember hydraulic fluid on the main spar, because I literally put my foot in it whilst climbing over the spar on my way to my crash position. I slipped, and when the aircraft hit the deck, I apparently did a back somersault forwards towards the cockpit, coming to rest in the aisle alongside my station. (The pitch control linkage was mechanical. I removed all the covers down the centre of the 'plane, and out to the point where the linkage disappeared into the wing. There was no break, so it had to be between that point and the engine. So we had to put up with it as they say.)

We decided to attempt a landing at a drome whose lights we could see – they were the only things visible at the time! As we made our approach the runway lights were suddenly extinguished so we circled and I fired off all the colours of the day that I could find. The response from the ground was zero. So then, on instructions from Dave, I fired off everything else that I could lay my hands on. All this time we were circling the drome. Finally Dave told me to fire off a flare cartridge – the last one we had. So off it went, to be met with zero response once more. Dave, in the bright light of the flare, lined up with the runway and in we went.

It later transpired that we had hit the runway in the middle, which happened to be its highest point, and bounced off into an adjoining field. We made a hasty exit from the aircraft and staggered to the edge of the field where we clambered aboard a U.S. army truck which took us to the Control Tower of what turned out to be the airfield, USAAF Sudbury, the base of the American 486th Bomb Group.

As we entered the building one of the staff turned and asked the skipper who he was. On being told that we were the crew of the aircraft that had just attempted a landing on their runway the response was "What aircraft?" That was the last straw for Dave and using rich Australian descriptive language he told them exactly which aircraft and what we had been doing to attract their attention. He ended his explanation with some freely offered comments about their ancestry and parentage of which they had previously been totally ignorant! Finally, it was admitted that we were seen but the Yanks had thought we were a German intruder – this despite my efforts with the colours of the day!

We were debriefed by the C.O. himself, and he said he would tell his men where they got off. At the debriefing Dave requested that our aircraft be guarded because of the secret equipment on board. After this we were fed etc. and allocated a hut for the night.

The next morning we went to survey our wrecked aircraft, which appeared to be unguarded. However, as we neared the aircraft a figure, with a rifle slung across his shoulder, rose from the central hatch. Despite the shattered fuel tanks and lines the guard was smoking a cigarette! Dave had another attack of apoplexy. This problem was also sorted out by the C.O.

However, despite the fraught beginnings the rest of our stay there was superb. We were fed, supplied with cigarettes, chewing gum, playing cards and everything we could have wanted. We were flown back to base after a day and a half, bad weather preventing an earlier return. Our Halifax, C – Charlie, was damaged beyond repair. The undercarriage had been torn away and the starboard-inner had sheared off. One blade of the prop was embedded in the ground just inches away from Fred's rear turret. ....................... Ralph Daughters.

.....end of quote from Memoir ......
In the photo, the twisted blade of the propeller can be seen projecting from the ground beside the rear turret.

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